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[Bug 1127] New: Review request: ailurus - makes Linux easier to use
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RPM Fusion Bugzilla
2010-03-22 01:23:05 UTC
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Summary: Review request: ailurus - makes Linux easier to use
Product: Package Reviews
Version: Current
Platform: All
OS/Version: GNU/Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P5
Component: Review Request
AssignedTo: rpmfusion-package-***@rpmfusion.org
ReportedBy: ***@gmail.com
CC: rpmfusion-package-***@rpmfusion.org
Blocks: 2,30
Estimated Hours: 0.0


Dear all,

I have a review request.

Spec: http://github.com/homerxing/Ailurus/raw/master/ailurus.spec

SRPM: http://ailurus.googlecode.com/files/ailurus-10.03.2-1.src.rpm

Description:
Ailurus is an application which makes Linux easier to use.
Its features
* Help users study some Linux skills
* Install/remove some nice applications
* Enable/disable some third party repositories
* Display information about BIOS, motherboard, CPU and battery
* Show/Hide Computer, Home folder, Trash icon and Network icon on desktop
* Configure Nautilus thumbnail cache
* Configure Nautilus context menu
* Configure Window behavior
* Configure GNOME auto-start applications
* Show/Hide GNOME splash screen

Why this package is not eligible:
This package is not eligible to be included in Fedora. Because it can enable
third party repositories, such as Adobe repository. Tom Callaway <tcallawa AT
redhat.com> replys:
" This isn't going to pass the FE-Legal check. We cannot include anything
in the Fedora repositories that points to these third party repositories, this
crosses the line from information to contributory infringement. "
See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553615

rpmlint:
rpmlint is silent on SPEC and SRPM.

About me:
I am not an RPM Fusion sponsored packager, and I am seeking a sponsor. This is
my first RPM fusion package. I hope to receive advice. Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Homer
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2010-03-22 22:57:54 UTC
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--- Comment #1 from Kevin Kofler <***@chello.at> 2010-03-22 23:57:53 ---
The Adobe repo isn't the biggest issue as far as Fedora is concerned (that one
is just a policy issue, not a legal issue), RPM Fusion and Livna (and ATrpms to
some extent) are.

BTW, is something pointing to Livna (and thus libdvdcss) even welcome in RPM
Fusion?
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2010-03-22 23:01:52 UTC
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--- Comment #2 from Kevin Kofler <***@chello.at> 2010-03-23 00:01:52 ---
(FWIW, I personally consider such apps to be entirely counterproductive, as
they actively promote proprietary software, which I consider to be counter to
our goals and teaching entirely the wrong thing to our users, especially as the
program claims to be "helping" them, when in fact it's only helping proprietary
software vendors erode their freedoms. Yes, I personally consider the policy
issue to be more serious than the legal ones.)
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2010-03-23 00:31:26 UTC
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--- Comment #3 from Homer Xing <***@gmail.com> 2010-03-23 01:31:26 ---
(In reply to comment #2)
Post by RPM Fusion Bugzilla
(FWIW, I personally consider such apps to be entirely counterproductive, as
they actively promote proprietary software, which I consider to be counter to
our goals and teaching entirely the wrong thing to our users, especially as the
program claims to be "helping" them, when in fact it's only helping proprietary
software vendors erode their freedoms. Yes, I personally consider the policy
issue to be more serious than the legal ones.)
Dear Kevin,

Thank you very much for advice!

I agree that Ailurus injured the users' freedom, and it tells proprietary
software thing to users.

Nevertheless I believe that the developers don't want to do that on purpose.

The developers will correct the mistake soon.
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--- Comment #4 from Homer Xing <***@gmail.com> 2010-03-29 15:04:45 ---
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Post by RPM Fusion Bugzilla
(FWIW, I personally consider such apps to be entirely counterproductive, as
they actively promote proprietary software, which I consider to be counter to
our goals and teaching entirely the wrong thing to our users, especially as the
program claims to be "helping" them, when in fact it's only helping proprietary
software vendors erode their freedoms. Yes, I personally consider the policy
issue to be more serious than the legal ones.)
Dear Kevin Kofler,

Ailurus developers (including me) do not wish to promote proprietary software,
or injure users' freedom. Therefore they completely deleted all proprietary
stuff.

They made these changes:
* Change SUN_JDK to OpenJDK.
* Change VirtualBox to VirtualBox-ose.
* Remove Dropbox.
* Remove repositories which provides non-open-source software only.
* Remove Livna repository.
* Remove ATrpms repository.
* Change Adobe Flash plugin to Gnash.
* Remove Adobe Reader.
* Remove Realplayer.
* Remove Skype.
* Change Chrome to Chromium.
* Remove Native 64bit Flash plugin.

Would you please re-consider it again? Thank you very much!

New Spec: http://github.com/homerxing/Ailurus/raw/master/ailurus.spec

New SRPM: http://homerxing.fedorapeople.org/ailurus-10.03.4-1.src.rpm

New RPM: http://homerxing.fedorapeople.org/ailurus-10.03.4-1.noarch.rpm

rpmlint: silent on SPEC and SRPM.

koji: built successfully. See
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2081157
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2010-04-05 22:08:19 UTC
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--- Comment #5 from David Timms <***@iinet.net.au> 2010-04-06 00:08:18 ---
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* Remove repositories which provides non-open-source software only.
* Remove Livna repository.
* Remove ATrpms repository.
Hi Homer,

I'm pretty sure that messing with people's software repository configuration is
not acceptable in a package. (I haven't taken a look at how this was achieved
in this package).

An example why this might be bad: eg user installs package A from (removed
repo), that requires current versions of libraries. They then install this
package, which disables the repo. Fedora offers security patches for the libs
that package A requires (specific version). Now the user can never successfully
update to the security fixed packages because yum sees that the installed
package would break.

ps. I haven't performed a normal review.
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2010-04-06 14:59:28 UTC
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Hi Homer,
I'm pretty sure that messing with people's software repository configuration is
not acceptable in a package. (I haven't taken a look at how this was achieved
in this package).
An example why this might be bad: eg user installs package A from (removed
repo), that requires current versions of libraries. They then install this
package, which disables the repo. Fedora offers security patches for the libs
that package A requires (specific version). Now the user can never successfully
update to the security fixed packages because yum sees that the installed
package would break.
ps. I haven't performed a normal review.
Dear David,

You are right. Installing a package from third-party repository will lock down
the versions of libraries, for example, when the maintainer of the third-party
repository forgets to upgrade the package.

However, I have not found out a solution yet. Should I completely remove all
third-party repositories from Ailurus?

Best regards,
Homer
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--- Comment #7 from Homer Xing <***@gmail.com> 2010-04-24 16:15:19 ---
Dear all,

New upstream version of Ailurus has released. It cannot install any third
party repositories, or closed source software. This package is eligible now.
Therefore I close this bug.

Thank you very much for reviewing!

Best regards,
Homer Xing
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